Opening transfer for gen2

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    • #1

    Hi. I would similar to start discussion about time to come regarding opening transfer betwixt gen2 and other maps (items and dinos).

    At that place are two things from gen2 that will most probable strongly affect other servers:

    1. Mutagen (all clean merged bred dino lines will go to trash)

    two. Ability to get 7-10k ele in less than 30 minutes (information technology volition exist easier/cheaper to clone neutered dinos from AH than breed non neutered that are normally much more expensive)

    Personally I would like to know what is the opinion of players/admins and/or what nosotros tin can expect in the future so that we could plan it properly (if mutagen or transfering dinos volition be immune and so there is no point in merging stats on other maps at present in my stance)

    • #2

    me personally am a fan of keeping the cluster closed for items and structures only opening it upward for dino's. an other affair that would seem oke for me is letting stuf go towards genesis 2 but not from genesis 2. transfer between gen2 and gen2+ should stay completely open in my opinion.

    • #3

    every bit far equally i can see, keep it closed. There'south a lot that would impact the residue of the server hugely. The ease how you tin can get asc bp's, element...

    So considering mutagen will give a HUGE advantage to people who ain the expansion over others. I am not in favor of splitting our playerbase for the unabridged cluster betwixt players that tin can get mutagen piece of cake and those that cant.

    Therefore, keep it closed.

    • #four

    I'm pretty sure WC will nerf element farming for sure (as before long as they sell enough DLCs and other players get-go complaining about P2W), they did it on gen1 (which was practiced but non equally OP as gen2).
    In the future I would similar to see open transfers every bit I'm working some breed lines in gen2 and others in non-gen2 maps, and then I would like to relish this lines in all servers and not having to "work" double the breed aforementioned lines in non-gen2 maps.
    With the comingTM nerf to element farming in gen2 the market of neutered dinos should not be an outcome but in case someone regret selling them considering people tin can clone them "easily" well.. only don't sell them if you don't want other players running with your dinos.
    In the other hand I'chiliad interested to meet what will happen with mutagen because personally I would like to enjoy all the content ARK give us, we accept had already other items/dinos (considered OP at the commencement) with new expansions that marked a deviation in the play-mode (of course some things similar crypods are adept to exist disabled and so we avert zooming bosses etc etc) but restricting core items and not giving the ability to replace them with a modded ane idk.. merely imagine what we would accept idea near the Egg Incubator if we wouldn't accept had admission to information technology from mods until gen2: OMG OP!!!

    o/

    • #5

    ane: Mutagen isn't OP, and it isn't a replacement for convenance. Afaik, you lot can only utilize it on wild defenseless dinos, you can only use it one time on a dino, and the heave it gives is fixed (5 stat points into HP, stam, weight, and melee). And considering how much of it you need for worthwhile dinos like rexes or gigas, I don't think people will run around using it all willy nilly. It'll just be a booster for great breeding lines, simply non a replacement.

    2: Element farming is indeed crazy OP on Gen two, only people cloning neutered dinos is the least of our worries imo. Cloning was the meta before the wipe as well, since chemical element veins were and still are a pretty viable source of chemical element. Sure, they crave more work than farming on Gen 2, just you tin can find them all the fourth dimension. On gen 2 y'all have to await for the right resource rotation, which can sometimes take ages, and it doesn't last for as well long either. Determined and skilled players will exist able to farm only every bit much element on Ext equally on Gen 2 during a similar timeframe.

    The but thing that's breaking the new concept on Gen two are the drops imo, simply I'd all the same want that map to open up eventually.

    • #six

    The only thing that'south breaking the new concept on Gen two are the drops imo, simply I'd still want that map to open up eventually.

    Eventually, yeah :P fast? no! Keep it airtight for a month or ii-3 at least imo

    • #7

    one: Mutagen isn't OP, and it isn't a replacement for breeding. Afaik, yous can only use information technology on wild defenseless dinos, yous tin just utilise information technology in one case on a dino, and the boost it gives is fixed (5 stat points into HP, stam, weight, and melee). And because how much of information technology you need for worthwhile dinos like rexes or gigas, I don't think people volition run effectually using it all willy nilly. It'll simply be a booster for great breeding lines, but not a replacement.

    2: Chemical element farming is indeed crazy OP on Gen ii, but people cloning neutered dinos is the to the lowest degree of our worries imo. Cloning was the meta before the wipe equally well, since element veins were and still are a pretty viable source of element. Sure, they require more than work than farming on Gen ii, but you lot tin find them all the time. On gen 2 you have to wait for the right resources rotation, which can sometimes take ages, and information technology doesn't last for too long either. Determined and skilled players will exist able to subcontract just as much element on Ext as on Gen 2 during a like timeframe.

    The only thing that's breaking the new concept on Gen 2 are the drops imo, simply I'd still want that map to open upwards eventually.

    OP no merely all dino lines that we managed to get so far will have to be fabricated all once again if we want to have very practiced clean stats. I guy got a lightning wyvern with 50 dmg recently which is ultra skillful stat cheers to ultra good luck. If we open up transfers so such stat will be much easier to become because of mutagel. It will require but 45 dmg stat. Some people dont have anymore tamed original stat dinos so they cant increase their stats to new +five.

    1 lunar bicycle gives upward to 10k mutagel which is plenty to raise a unmarried dino dmg, hp, weight, stam past 5. Yesterday we had 4 cycles with mutagel in 14 hours existent time. So it will be easy to get higher stats for every dino we want.

    And so if we want to open transfer of mutagen or dinos that used mutagen then nearly clean dino lines that I have right now will decrease its value desperately.

    • #8

    OP no merely all dino lines that we managed to get so far will have to exist made all over again if we desire to have very adept clean stats. One guy got a lightning wyvern with 50 dmg recently which is ultra good stat thanks to ultra good luck. If we open up transfers then such stat will be much easier to get because of mutagel. It will crave only 45 dmg stat. Some people dont accept anymore tamed original stat dinos so they cant increase their stats to new +five.

    One lunar cycle gives up to 10k mutagel which is enough to raise a single dino dmg, hp, weight, stam by 5. Yesterday nosotros had 4 cycles with mutagel in fourteen hours real time. And so it will exist piece of cake to get higher stats for every dino we want.

    And so if nosotros want to open up transfer of mutagen or dinos that used mutagen so virtually clean dino lines that I have right now will decrease its value badly.

    The guy that got a 50dmg wyvern will also exist able to use mutagen on it.

    Non everyone tin can play all that time in the day or is bachelor to thou farm mutagel when the lunar rotation comes in.

    Yeah that will happen to me with some lines, but that's something WC did on purpose then mutagen is not a game breaking affair. Imagine being able to utilize mutagen in breeded dinos... 250 melee gigas in one month.

    • #nine

    The guy that got a 50dmg wyvern will also be able to employ mutagen on information technology.

    Non everyone can play all that time in the day or is available to thou farm mutagel when the lunar rotation comes in.

    Yes that volition happen to me with some lines, but that'due south something WC did on purpose and so mutagen is not a game breaking thing. Imagine beingness able to utilize mutagen in breeded dinos... 250 melee gigas in 1 month.

    This still won't modify annihilation that people that accept no admission to genesis2 volition always take inferior lines to people that exercise. And thats a partitioning in the customs imo.

    • #10

    But that's already happening with other items/dinos that you can only get from DLCs, how we fix all of that?

    Once transfers are open players will start selling those items and everyone without DLC will be able to get them, if not what would be the piece of work effectually? blocking gen2 transfers forever = rip the map or blocking mutagen because it gives twenty levels?

    At the end it just five levels in iv stats, from my bespeak of view I don't encounter the issue hither, players with breed lines will need to rework them if they wanna get those extra 20 levels that'south all and neither this or using mutagen successfully will be easy because yous depend on the tamed animal.

    • #11

    But that's already happening with other items/dinos that you tin can but get from DLCs, how we fix all of that?

    Once transfers are open players will first selling those items and everyone without DLC will be able to get them, if non what would be the work around? blocking gen2 transfers forever = rip the map or blocking mutagen because information technology gives 20 levels?

    At the end it merely 5 levels in iv stats, from my point of view I don't see the upshot here, players with breed lines volition need to rework them if they wanna go those extra 20 levels that's all and neither this or using mutagen successfully will be piece of cake because you depend on the tamed animate being.

    The big difference here is that dino's tin usually hands exist multiplied. Be information technology by breeding or cloning. Therefore it volition never be a very rare resource. Mutagen all the same is dependent on the map, deceit be gotten anywhere else and when its not in rotation, there's no other style to get information technology. Y'all deceit brood it, nor clone information technology, nor craft it. In the finish the amount of dino'southward is infinite, the amount of mutagel is finite, depending on the lunar rotations. If information technology will exist sold, it will just lead to a transfer of riches to the people that have gen2 from the people that exercise not have gen2.

    This in fact will create the upper course (gen2 owners) & lower class (not gen2 owners). The lower class will always have to spend shittons to get to equal footing every bit the upper class, wich is not what happens with dino's. Once they purchase a dino they can e'er clone it. Even if it is neutered. So they never take to loose their investment in it.

    Then as i said before, it will separate the community up and its not a good matter imo

    • #12

    Mutagen is fine IMO. You get iv levels on a bred animal and the stats will not go on the offspring so eh. 20 lvls on wild ones isnt that bad too if you lot ask me, because that bred creatures will always be better because of imprint boosts and mutations.

    The element one is hopefully getting nerfed soon, if not maybe just deactivate the transfer of information technology.

    The creatures are ok. I´d be ok with opening transfers once the element stuff is amend.

    • #13

    Here's the thing with keeping the cluster airtight to transfers. One time people breed and get the missions done, they will vanquish the concluding blastoff rockwell. That'due south it. At that place'south aught left to do on the map. The map is then dead because you can't utilize annihilation that you've built up there. In that location is zip left. So keeping the gen2 map closed to transfers is going to kill the map and nobody will play on it.

    Also, mutagen is just going to heighten points by 5 in dino lines. And it takes an absurd amount of mutagen to practice that. If people are worried most players that haven't washed bosses having better lines than that of hard-core players, and then cease selling skiffs and Due north+ tek structures to them. But its PVE. It's not similar they are coming in and attacking you. Open up transfers or the Gen2 map will dice.

    • #14

    Yes it is almosd died i want transfer for all servers besides because i cant exercise anything if i cannly stay on that map cuz my main base of operations is here now.

    • #15

    OP no but all dino lines that we managed to go and so far volition have to be made all over once again if we want to accept very skillful clean stats. One guy got a lightning wyvern with 50 dmg recently which is ultra good stat thanks to ultra skillful luck. If we open up transfers so such stat will be much easier to get because of mutagel. Information technology will require only 45 dmg stat. Some people dont have anymore tamed original stat dinos so they cant increment their stats to new +v.

    That sounds like poor planning imo. Always continue your wild stats when convenance. You never know when you'll mess up or get ARKed, so having an extra safety layer to fall back on is e'er a good idea in this game. Keeping the map locked for this reason would basically punish many for the mistakes of a few.

    1 lunar wheel gives up to 10k mutagel which is enough to raise a single dino dmg, hp, weight, stam by five. Yesterday we had 4 cycles with mutagel in 14 hours existent time. And so it will exist like shooting fish in a barrel to get college stats for every dino we want.

    That sounds a fleck ludicrous to me, I did some tests myself and I can't get that much mutagel. But fine, permit's say I'1000 a complete noob and I've been farming it wrong. Allow'due south roll with 10k mutagel per cycle.

    Yous need 800 to craft half-dozen mutagen. You need 99 mutagen for a single giga. Yous'd need near 80k mutagel for that, or ii very lucky days of 4 cycles per day if you lot farm it at superlative efficiency. So not the easiest affair to get and use. It's well counterbalanced imo.

    And as for dino lines decreasing in value over time, that is inevitable every bit more and more people will brood and start selling. Mutagen might make that procedure faster, but it'll happen regardless, and keeping a map locked to avoid it is overkill. Like others have already said, keeping Gen two locked is a capital punishment for that map.

    • #16

    80k? No. Its 13.2k which is i.5 mutagen lunar cycles. My electric current personal record is nine.2k and I dont fifty-fifty have fully lvled anky. Also I bet that mantis gets more than. I'm very confident that I volition get more than 10k. Also this is giga. Other dinos crave less. What should say people that don't accept gen2 and they dont have whatever way to farm mutagen? They tin't compete on market confronting such easy +v stat

    • #17

    Why does information technology matter what other people have? It'south a PVE cluster. They aren't using these tames to set on other players. They can always buy improve dinos if they desire. If not, they tin brood like we've always done without mutagen. People last wipe had maxed out lines without mutagen. What's the divergence. Who cares what people take. But play the game how it's intended. I paid for the DLC. If they didn't, I'm sorry. But that's not my fault. Don't punish me when it doesn't directly bear on them.

    • #xviii

    Ok thank you guys for your honesty :) This is exacly what I wanted to hear/read :)

    • #nineteen

    whatsoever upward date when gen two will be opened upwardly for transfer ? i don't see why its taking so long

    • #xx

    whatever up date when gen 2 will be opened up for transfer ? i don't run across why its taking so long

    so long? its just been virtually a month... Gen1 remained airtight for over 2! and even then you could only accept stuff out at commencement, not bring anything in!